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> <channel><title>Comments on: Making Tables Harder Than They Need To Be</title> <atom:link href="http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/</link> <description>A brief interlude to share some (hopefully) cogent thoughts</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:58:36 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: Dan Allen</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8501</link> <dc:creator>Dan Allen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8501</guid> <description>It&#039;s wrong to tell someone how to design their application. As Jason cited, tables are often much faster and therefore save you time and money trying to get the CSS right. Don&#039;t rationalize money spent when you don&#039;t know the situation. CSS takes a long time to get right, especially for those that don&#039;t have extensive knowledge of it or a cheat in their back pocket.So +1 for Jason.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s wrong to tell someone how to design their application. As Jason cited, tables are often much faster and therefore save you time and money trying to get the CSS right. Don&#8217;t rationalize money spent when you don&#8217;t know the situation. CSS takes a long time to get right, especially for those that don&#8217;t have extensive knowledge of it or a cheat in their back pocket.</p><p>So +1 for Jason.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Lee</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8489</link> <dc:creator>Jason Lee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:18:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8489</guid> <description>I&#039;m aware of the reasons not to do it, but as I noted, sometimes I just don&#039;t care enough to do the work.  I think I&#039;ll try to crank out a JSF component to do that for me though. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of the reasons not to do it, but as I noted, sometimes I just don&#8217;t care enough to do the work.  I think I&#8217;ll try to crank out a JSF component to do that for me though. <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aline</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8488</link> <dc:creator>Aline</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8488</guid> <description>It is wrong to use tables to structure forms.
Creating the CSS is more complicated on the first time, but once it is created, just use it.
Moreover, the size of the pages when structured with tables becomes much bigger :).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wrong to use tables to structure forms.<br
/> Creating the CSS is more complicated on the first time, but once it is created, just use it.<br
/> Moreover, the size of the pages when structured with tables becomes much bigger <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hobi</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8487</link> <dc:creator>Hobi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8487</guid> <description>I know many people agrees that using table is a lame way to design a messy form.  Cool kids use &lt;div&gt; but I am old school when comes to design a form that has couple dozen fields.  I feel, table gives me more control and I can get around with a table lot quicker than fiddling with &lt;div&gt;/css or .  I have tried  to layout my form and it seemed to be I had hard time put things in right place using  than a simple html table.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know many people agrees that using table is a lame way to design a messy form.  Cool kids use<div> but I am old school when comes to design a form that has couple dozen fields.  I feel, table gives me more control and I can get around with a table lot quicker than fiddling with<div>/css or .  I have tried  to layout my form and it seemed to be I had hard time put things in right place using  than a simple html table.</div></div> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Lee</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8486</link> <dc:creator>Jason Lee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8486</guid> <description>I understand the arguments, and sometimes agree, depending on what you catch me on. :)  As a general rule, I avoid basing my entire page layout on tables, as that gets really messy in a hurry.  Sometimes, though, it&#039;s just easier to put my from in a table and let the browser handle sizing the fields for me automatically, as opposed to trying to manully insure correct size via css.  In short, sometimes I&#039;m just too lazy to do it the right way. :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the arguments, and sometimes agree, depending on what you catch me on. <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> As a general rule, I avoid basing my entire page layout on tables, as that gets really messy in a hurry.  Sometimes, though, it&#8217;s just easier to put my from in a table and let the browser handle sizing the fields for me automatically, as opposed to trying to manully insure correct size via css.  In short, sometimes I&#8217;m just too lazy to do it the right way. <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard@Home</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8485</link> <dc:creator>Richard@Home</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8485</guid> <description>escaped my markup :(markup:[div class=&#039;field&#039;]
[label]label[label] [input /]
[/div]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>escaped my markup <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>markup:</p><p>[div class='field']<br
/> [label]label[label] [input /]<br
/> [/div]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard@Home</title><link>http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/2009/05/making-tables-harder-than-they-need-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-8484</link> <dc:creator>Richard@Home</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:10:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/?p=412#comment-8484</guid> <description>&quot; Right or wrong, I do it from time to time&quot;It&#039;s wrong :razz:. Forms are not tabulatory data. What&#039;s wrong with:markup:
&lt;div&gt;
foo
&lt;/div&gt;css:
div.field {
clear: both;
}
label {
float: left;
width: 10em;
}?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Right or wrong, I do it from time to time&#8221;</p><p>It&#8217;s wrong <img
src='http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> . Forms are not tabulatory data. What&#8217;s wrong with:</p><p>markup:</p><div> foo</div><p>css:<br
/> div.field {<br
/> clear: both;<br
/> }<br
/> label {<br
/> float: left;<br
/> width: 10em;<br
/> }</p><p>?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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